Markus Lanz (ZDF): Will YOU be the new CDU chairwoman?  Laumann: "Doesn't fit"

Markus Lanz (ZDF): Will YOU be the new CDU chairwoman? Laumann: “Doesn’t fit”

10/14/2021 at 9:59 am

This is Markus Lanz

This is Markus Lanz

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NRW Minister Karl-Josef Laumann is a guest on Wednesday evening Markus Lanz – although he is actually not allowed to be there. The journalist Mariam Lau from the weekly newspaper “Die Zeit” unpacks that there is currently a kind of interview ban for the party leadership.

NRW Health Minister Laumann comments on this Markus Lanz dryly: “I’m going where I want to go. Ready, off! “

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Markus Lanz (ZDF): Will THIS woman be the new CDU chairwoman? Laumann: “Doesn’t fit”

Apparently, the CDU leadership wants to curb the public discussion about the leadership crisis in the party. The media should concentrate more on the traffic light sounding. Laumann also sees that. His union does not have to play “sole entertainers” if coalition negotiations are ongoing at the same time.

Then the social politician talks to Markus Lanz about the future of his party. The Union does not need a fresh head as a boss, he says: “It will not be possible for anyone who does not have a certain political experience”.

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Lanz lists the names that come into question: Friedrich Merz, Norbert Röttgen, Ralph Brinkhaus, Carsten Linnemann, Jens Spahn – five men, all from North Rhine-Westphalia. Laumann does not name his preference, but in the course of the conversation it appears that Merz and Röttgen are not his favorites.

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But what about a woman? Laumann admits: “At the moment I don’t really see anybody with women”. He regrets it, but “it is as it is”.

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When ZEIT journalist Lau then brings Karin Prien, Education Minister from Schleswig-Holstein, into play as dual leadership with Jens Spahn, Laumann decides: “I don’t think twice about dual leadership.” 64 year olds.

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A double rejection from Laumann for Karin Prien. On the one hand, he does not see any suitable women in his party for the top position at the moment, and on the other hand, he does not believe in a double leadership with which one could build up the Prien, which is still quite unknown in federal politics.

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This is Karin Prien:

  • The 56-year-old has been Minister for Education, Science and Culture in Schleswig-Holstein since 2017.
  • She was a member of Armin Laschet’s “future team” for the areas of education and social cohesion.
  • Prien is a specialist lawyer for commercial and corporate law and a mediator.
  • From 2011 to 2017 she was a member of the Hamburg Parliament.
  • She is married and has three children.


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Laumann also has reservations about the membership survey favored by many. The reason: The membership of the party is not representative. “Of course, the CDU members no longer reflect our electorate,” said Laumann. The party members are on average too old for that.

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It is important, however, that something gets around “what our people want” in the election of the chairman. After all, the worm must taste good to the fish and not to the fisherman, says Laumann.

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Here you can see the whole episode by Markus Lanz in the ZDF media library.

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