The president of the Generalitat, Pere Aragons, has disassociated this Wednesday the dialogue table with the central government from the debate on the General State Budgets (PGE), although he has pointed out that “everything helps”.
He has said it asked at a press conference in the Generalitat after meeting with the president of the central Government, Pedro Snchez, and after opening the table: “Everything helps, obviously. If the PGE help, this can advance. If this advances, the PGE too “.
“But the matters are different, and the dynamics itself,” highlighted Aragons, who recalled that the PGE depend on a negotiation in Congress, and not on the one that will remain on the table between the two executives.
For his part, Sánchez explained that at the meeting he found that their political positions to resolve the so-called Catalan conflict are very far apart and are “radically different” so both have promised to dialogue “without deadlines.”
This is what he has shown in the press conference that he has offered after his meeting of almost two hours this Wednesday; a meeting that has served to restart the dialogue table between the central government and the Catalan, and that has followed a meeting between the teams designated by both executives to undertake this negotiation.
In this way, this Wednesday’s session has left a single agreement between the two Governments -that of the Generalitat, represented only by ERC, after the exclusion of Junts-: to continue negotiating “without haste, without pause and without deadlines.” , as pointed out by Snchez, and later confirmed by Aragons, in his corresponding press conference.
Snchez: “It was worth it”
That s, Snchez has made it clear that the main obstacle continues to be the independence demand for self-determination and amnesty that Aragons has raised again and that the president has reaffirmed that he will never accept. But even so, the chief executive has defended that “it has been worthwhile” to restart this instrument, to find solutions.
“I believe that the images are important from the political point of view, that meetings are held between two government delegations to try to resolve crises that caused a tear, it seems good to me that it has an enormous power of political message,” he assured.
Both are aware, as they have explained, that there are many “complexities” and that the problems that bind them “did not start yesterday” nor will they be solved “tomorrow” and, therefore, they have agreed “to move forward without setting a date for the resolution of the conflict,” in the words of the Prime Minister.
“The positions are very far away, but we have also agreed that the table is the best way to find agreed solutions,” said Snchez, who stressed that this will be possible thanks to the fact that the climate is now better than it was a year ago, and also at the disposal and will of both governments to dialogue.
The absence of Junts
In this regard, when asked about the dispute that affects the members of the Generalitat after excluding Aragons to Junts from the table, due to their effort to seat people outside the Government, Snchez has avoided commenting on these tensions.
“From the Government of Spain we are deeply respectful of what emanates from the decisions that the Government has taken. We have nothing to add, we are going to get to work, I believe that Catalonia and Spain deserve a better future,” he said. Sanchez.
That s, at the same time it has reaffirmed that “the commitment of both delegations is total resounding.” “We began this stage with hope and renewed energy,” he emphasized.
Meetings “regular and discreet”
Regarding the methodology of the table, the two leaders have agreed that it is the best instrument in their opinion to “seek solutions”, but they have not finished closing the details of how to work. This will be a question addressed by the delegations of ministers and councilors, although Aragons has already advanced that they will be “periodic and discreet meetings.
The delegations held their first meeting this Wednesday in this “restart” of the dialogue table, after the meeting alone between the chairmenYes, and that it comes one year and seven months after the first attempt to activate this negotiating instrument, in February 2020, before the coronavirus pandemic broke out and Catalonia entered a period of interim status, due to the departure of the former president. Quim Torra and the holding of elections.
With practically all its members renewed, the delegation of the Government is made up of the Minister of the Presidency, Flix Bolaos, in charge of coordinating the work; the second vice president and leader of Unidos Podemos in the central Executive, Yolanda Daz; the spokesperson and Minister of Territorial Policy, Isabel Rodríguez, and the Minister of Culture, Miquel Iceta.
As for the Generalitat team, it is made up of the councilors Laura Vilagr and Roger Torrent, after the Catalan president left Junts off the table by rejecting his proposal of names, among which were people outside the Government, among them, two of those convicted by the procs, later pardoned by the Government.
Apart from the tensions that have surrounded the event, Sánchez and Aragons have transferred their firm commitment to this instrument, although they have not closed any agreement beyond it, and both have once again put on the table proposals that are either insufficient or unacceptable for the other party.
In this way, Aragons has once again demanded self-determination and amnesty, and Sánchez has flatly refused to negotiate on this issue. Moreover, he has assured that “this is not a proposal in the eyes of the Government.” “The Government of Spain will always respect democracy and constitutional order,” he stressed.
Instead, it has once again transferred the so-called ‘Reunion Agenda’ that it already proposed in February 2020, which includes, according to the President of the Government, a response to “the historical demands” that have been raised by all the Governs from Artur Mas, in all areas.
“The Agenda for Reunion aims to lay the foundations for a unity project, a project to regain affection and to share a common future that can only be based on dialogue and mutual trust,” says the Executive in the document that has led to the dialogue table this Wednesday.
Back with El Prat
The Government’s agenda continues to include, among other issues, the intention of the Executive to expand and improve the El Prat airport, although in his appearance Sánchez has reaffirmed that at the moment the project is not “mature” and must be “parked”, due to lack of institutional consensus in the Generalitat, after ERC’s rejection of the project, due to the environmental impact that it entails in a protected area.
“We have verified that right now, in the opinion of the Government, with all due respect, there is no mature position of the Government to undertake an investment that for the Government is strategic. There is no news, the project is not mature and therefore the Government parks that expansion “, has settled.
Taking into account all their discrepancies, Sánchez has also called for “starting to speak for those things in which they have closest positions.” “It is the key to be able to continue advancing and I insist, we start from radically different positions, and we are going to need a lot of time,” he stressed. “That is why I think it is important to emphasize that you have to work slowly, without pause and without deadlines,” he elaborated.