“We do not renounce independence, or negotiation. This is something extremely complex,” he acknowledged. Pere Aragonès, “but this is about sovereignty, about the political community that must decide its future and we are going to defend that it is Catalonia.” And that’s it. There’s nothing more to speak of.

… or yes, in the third week of September, when Barcelona – according to an agreement with Pedro Sánchez – will host the resumption of the dialogue, negotiation and agreement table. But who knows what both parties will be able to talk about if everything is already clear: there is a political conflict, it must be resolved politically through dialogue, negotiation and agreement, and everything must end in a referendum in Catalonia.

The president de la Generalitat arrived in Madrid, for his first meeting with the Prime Minister at Moncloa, with a very well drawn and explicit strategic plan, which he explained to the Delegation that the Generlitat has in the capital of Spain.

Pere Aragonès at a press conference after the meeting with Pedro Sánchez

In the first place, he told his interlocutor, “the president of Spain”, that his Agenda for the reunion, but it does not matter that of the 44 points of the same, 40 have nothing to do with “the political conflict between Catalonia and the State”. And secondly, he set and screwed on the table a position of maximums “which we will never renounce” although, nevertheless, he sold it as “the most inclusive of all”, the independence referendum.

Regarding the first, Aragonès said that he had agreed with Sánchez that “everything that has to do with breaches of the Statute, transfers of powers and financing will be discussed in the Bilateral commission“And even gave a date, closed between both for their meeting, already in this month of July that enters.

And in the second, he displayed a particularly clever dialectic: he assured that his demand for the secession referendum “is not, in reality, a proposal of maximums”, but “the intermediate solution.” And he explained it like this: “I have not come here to ask for independence, but rather that the citizens of Catalonia can decide their future. If I wanted to impose my idea, I would have demanded that tomorrow they recognize us as a republic… but no, I’ve come here with a solution for everyone. “

That is, there are two dates for two meetings, and it is the most tangible thing that came out of the meeting. One in July, for legal requirements; and another in September, for the illegal ones.

The independent pine of Aragonés

Adding that “the only proposal of the State so far is to maintain the the status quo“And that -of course-” is not inclusive “, because it leaves out independentists like him, he closed the circle of the argument. And thus, he felt legitimized to conclude: “Make no mistake, because I will defend the independence referendum and the amnesty with all the ambition”. And, smiling, he added that “it would be very easy if we resigned, but we are not going to do it.”

The photos and video distributed by the official services of Moncloa did not offer any close-up of Pere Aragonese. Only from the president, Pedro Sanchez. And joint images, affable gestures, the expectation of many graphic media. The most striking thing, the welcome scene that was somewhat orthopedic and that Catalan media analyzed – after receiving the sequence – trying to find out if there was indeed, or not, a greeting from the president to the president. And a little more.

Aragonès warns Sánchez that he will not give up an independence referendum

Aragonès arrived in Madrid with his pin on his lapel. A flower in yellow tones that, according to sources in his environment, was not going to be removed precisely for the occasion of his first visit to Moncloa as Catalan president.

But in a game of symbolism similar to that of Sánchez’s visit to Pedralbes, when the Spanish president was put a yellow plant on the back table for the camera shot, during his talk with Chem Roast -and Moncloa’s services added a red poinsettia-, this time the Secretary of State for Communication avoided close-up shots of the indepe pin.

In any case, in Moncloa they were not surprised by “the independence rhetoric” of president.

Nothing unexpected about the indepe yellow badge, according to government sources, who assumed that Aragonès would spend his long minutes in Moncloa – it was more than two and a half hours that the two presidents gave each other – in deploying “their two demands, the amnesty and self-determination “, that is, the independence referendum… “that is impossible, he already knows the limits”.

Moncloa says that Sánchez has not addressed amnesty or self-determination

In return, the planned plan was for the president to let him speak, that is, to present his requests, and then respond “with things that are easier to agree on, such as investments in Rodalies, or the expansion of El Prat”. Both were points on the reunion Agenda, the one that has already been overcome in the first contact and in which Sánchez trusted as his roadmap for the negotiation table.

No surprises in Moncloa

Aragonès, in his press conference and in his subsequent talk with journalists, already more relaxed and without microphones, gave the feeling that had run into a wall in the person of Pedro Sánchez in all the part of their secessionist demands.

And so he tried to verify Maria Jesus Montero: “The president at no time has spoken of amnesty, exiles or self-determination,” he said before correcting himself: “They are not exiles, but people who They fled from Justice and must return to be judged, like the others“.

According to the Government spokesperson, at the meeting, the president expressed what he wanted, and the president tried to make the quote useful, “within the protocol of meetings with regional presidents”. That is a very repeated tagline for a month, linked to the appointment of Aragonès and Sánchez with which it will be held next week between the president and the president of Madrid, Isabel Diaz Ayuso.

Pere Aragonès, at the press conference after the meeting with the President of the Government, at the Generalitat Delegation in Madrid.

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Montero, yes, implicitly admitted the defeat of Sánchez’s plan by offering as achievements of the meeting “the agreements reached in matters of institutional normality, resumption of the meetings of the bilateral Commission and, already later, the dialogue table in September”, on which he could not give a single detail neither calendars nor, above all, content. Among other things, because the president He had started from his appointment with Sánchez that only his “inalienable” questions should be dealt with.

Thus, Moncloa stressed that the president invited him “to make viable proposals that allow the bilateral Commission to advance with a specific agenda that is useful.”

But Aragonès was also a wall for Sánchez when he asked him to lead “a forum for dialogue within Catalonia” with all parties. An idea that you insist on Salvador Illa, leader of the PSC in the Parliament, and to which they have already assured that even the PP and Citizens would go. “But president has not responded. “

“Stone the way”

Finally, neither party announced an agreement on the matter, but there was a coincidence and a smile that may mean something. The smile was that of Aragonès, asked by the Court of Accounts, when he said that “the State has springs, it will find the way” to solve the problem. And the coincidence was that both Moncloa and Blanquerna addressed this issue with the same argument

… nothing to say about the accounting responsibility of the 40 political leaders of Catalan nationalism who were informed this Tuesday of the imminent embargo of more than five million euros – among them, the recently pardoned Oriol Junqueras, the escaped Carles Puigdemont, the ex-president Artur Mas and the prestigious economist Andreu Mas Colell– and all the pressure on the Popular Party.

In the words of the president Aragonese, It is the PP that has kidnapped the Court of Accounts and the CGPJ exercising a veto right not to renew it and I cannot be blamed for breaking the separation of powers. “A little more or less, what the spokeswoman Montero said. And that is that Aragonès went back to Barcelona knowing to what extent the Government is ready to “unblock the path” of coexistence and harmony.

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